The Ugly Cry is one of this year’s most talked-about books and for good reason. Renee chats with author Danielle Henderson about family, coming of age, trauma, comedy, and so much more. Then Phalin gives a brief overview of the heartwarming book The Gratitude Jar and discusses how practicing the nightly routine helped move her life in a positive direction.
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This episode was edited by Phalin Oliver and produced by Renee Powers on the ancestral land of the Dakota people.
Original music by @iam.onyxrose